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Tried to use my own images for Wikipedia but identified as copyright violation[edit]
Thanks a lot for all the timely help regarding my own artwork. Given the complexity involved, I decided to stop here and retract what I asked. Once again, thanks a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bnurs (talk • contribs) 01:20, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
Fair use photo for a player like Julie Halard-Decugis[edit]
We have a tennis article at Wikipedia on Julie Halard-Decugis. There are no photos on her page because we can find no public domain images of her. She won the US Open tennis title in doubles in 2000 plus several other titles in her career in the 1990s but she is long since retired. When I look at a website like [1] I see photos of Julie Halard-Decugis and I know they are copyrighted, even though they don't say so. Must we have an article on wikipedia with no photo at all, or is there some way we can use one of these photos as fair use, say in either the infobox or perhaps in prose where we have a sentence describing her win? I'm not sure exactly how fair use works in this case as I usually have just uploaded my own personal photos here. We have many older tennis players with this situation and I need to be advised on how the fair-use works for Wikiproject Tennis. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:22, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- This is an issue for Wikipedia. No "fair use" of 3rd party copyrighted material here on Commons. English language Wikipedia allows it in some circumstances, see en:Wikipedia:Non-free content - note that if so it would need to be uploaded locally to en:Wikipedia, not here. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:54, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- However, I believe there is almost no chance en-wiki will accept a "fair use" image of a living person. They'll say, "Get hold of them. Take their picture." - Jmabel ! talk 02:44, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yup. Or possibly "Send her to a North Korean prison." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:44, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Gråbergs Gråa Sång: 'Or possibly "Send her to a North Korean prison."' If this is relevant, the relevance escapes me. Are you suggesting that we would somehow be putting her safety at risk by trying to arrange to take a photo of her? - Jmabel ! talk 21:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jmabel Sorry, it was an attempt at humor, based on that I've seen en-WP on occasion accept pictures of living people as fair use with the motivation that they are imprisoned for the foreseeable future, like Lucy Letby. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:07, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Gråbergs Gråa Sång: Aha! Figured it was a joke but failed to get the reference. - Jmabel ! talk 23:17, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jmabel Sorry, it was an attempt at humor, based on that I've seen en-WP on occasion accept pictures of living people as fair use with the motivation that they are imprisoned for the foreseeable future, like Lucy Letby. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:07, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Gråbergs Gråa Sång: 'Or possibly "Send her to a North Korean prison."' If this is relevant, the relevance escapes me. Are you suggesting that we would somehow be putting her safety at risk by trying to arrange to take a photo of her? - Jmabel ! talk 21:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yup. Or possibly "Send her to a North Korean prison." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:44, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'm told some editors have had some success contacting article subjects and asking if they are willing to "donate" a picture. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:47, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- The use of non-free images on en.Wikipedia is deliberately restricted to a minimum because it is a free content encyclopaedia. In the case of a living person, non-free use images are rarely permitted as it is usually still possible to obtain a free-use image of the person. Alternatively, as Gråbergs Gråa Sång says, ask the subject to donate a picture or find a photograph and ask the copyright holder if they will donate it. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 14:19, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
Wizard upload not always working[edit]
For a week, I get error messages using the upload wizard: "Internal error: Server failed to store temporary file." I cannot always the classic upload because some files are over 100 mb Smaxims (talk) 10:09, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- See Commons:Chunked uploads and you can use tools such as User talk:Rillke/bigChunkedUpload.js. That will almost always fix the issue. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:31, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thx, but it won’t work. After uploading chunks and trying to assemble them on the server side, I got the message "00208: FAILED: stashfailed: Internal error: Server failed to store temporary file.".
- And anyway, it is not a solution for a multiple upload, just a possible workaround (which want work for me) for a single file upload Smaxims (talk) 11:14, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- I get the very same error for about a week. "Internal error: Server failed to store temporary file." The whole project I'm working on is stuck now. Can anyone please take a look into this issue with uploading wizard? Alexkrakovsky (talk) 17:01, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- User:John Cummings had a similar report. - Jmabel ! talk 21:39, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Jmabel Thanks :) Yes I had the same issue, I started a phabricator bug report here, please Smaxims and Alexkrakovsky can you share there what happened, what file it was including a link if you can (even if you've managed to find a workaround the engineer can test it because it fails before the duplicate file check). John Cummings (talk) 05:00, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- I just tried to upload the file and I got the very same error "Internal error: Server failed to store temporary file." No change. Alexkrakovsky (talk) 17:33, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Same here with File:Map of the city and county of New York - with the adjacent country - by David H. Burr. NYPL433800.tiff --Sebastian Wallroth (talk) 05:28, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'm also still got this error. So I can't proceed uploading my project. Ilham.nurwansah (talk) 07:50, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- The error after uploading is gone. But it now appears later when you type in all the details and proceed further. Internal error: Server failed to publish temporary file. Alexkrakovsky (talk) 16:26, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
Licensing[edit]
It is frustrating that the photographer Harald Krichel whose many photos are available on Wikimedia/Wikipedia is using the services of Pixsy to bully and threaten small businesses and bloggers with copyright infringement lawsuits. This is hardly in the spirit of Wikimedia and the CC licenses available. Please reconsider your relationship with this photographer. Thank you. 152.44.211.156 20:06, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Pinging @Seewolf (Harald Krichel): do you have something to say in response to this? - Jmabel ! talk 21:53, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- @IP the accusation is really strange as Seewolf is a member of VRT, has not uploaded "many photos", but only 125, has mostly imported files (PD or as an importer for VRT), only uploaded few "own" files (Seewolf could only for these make "bully and threaten") and Seewolf's "own" uploads are cc-by-sa-4.0 - a forgiving license that is avoided by copyright trolls. Maybe the IP is actually unhappy with VRT decisions? C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 19:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- The account User:Harald Krichel uploaded thousands of files. -- Asclepias (talk) 20:53, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Pinging @Harald Krichel then. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 22:24, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- The account User:Harald Krichel uploaded thousands of files. -- Asclepias (talk) 20:53, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- @IP the accusation is really strange as Seewolf is a member of VRT, has not uploaded "many photos", but only 125, has mostly imported files (PD or as an importer for VRT), only uploaded few "own" files (Seewolf could only for these make "bully and threaten") and Seewolf's "own" uploads are cc-by-sa-4.0 - a forgiving license that is avoided by copyright trolls. Maybe the IP is actually unhappy with VRT decisions? C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 19:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Creative Commons frowns on such behavior. Their statement relating to copyleft trolls can be found below:
- "Put simply, “license-enforcement-as-business model” is a perversion of the founding ideals of Creative Commons. We condemn this behavior.
- These aggressive enforcement actions lessen trust in open licensing, and they erode the good faith ecosystem that is the basis of the commons.
- Together with our community, we will continue to take action to deter those who leverage CC licenses in bad faith. The health of the commons
- depends upon it."
- Full text can be read here.
- A growing number of us who have been harassed by Pixsy, acting on behalf of the photographers they represent, are planning to launch a Subreddit and website on this topic. The aim of this Subreddit/Site will be to share the names of these bad-faith actors and to provide support and resources for those who are dealing with similar legal threats and harassment.
- If Pixsy truly cared about enforcing photographers' copyrights, they would focus on real copyright infringement rather than attempting to extract money for minor attribution errors. I will share a link to the Subreddit and website once they’re available. CopyLeftTrolls (talk) 20:27, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, Cory Doctorow and Joshua Brustein accuse Larry Philpot of using Commons to sue people. Nenad Stojkovic is also mentioned by Doctorow. Nightshooter didn't upload anything since October 2013, but we should probably do something here. Images by Marco Verch were previously deleted for the very same reason. Yann (talk) 20:59, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Then again, CopyLeftTrolls appears to be an SPA. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 21:09, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- May be. In fact I should have posted to COM:VPC#Copyleft Trolls instead, now done. Yann (talk) 21:34, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Then again, CopyLeftTrolls appears to be an SPA. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 21:09, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Please exclude SVG translations via the SVG Translate tool from Special:AbuseFilter/290[edit]
Hello. Mere translations of SVG files via the SVG Translate tool should be exempted from Special:AbuseFilter/290. This tool only lets users translate text labels in existing SVG files, which is a far cry from the major, disruptive overwrites that this abuse filter seeks to prevent. Thank you. Leptictidium (talk) 08:37, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Leptictidium: We have an exception in place for this. Please try leaving the Edit Summary alone. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Jeff G.: , what do you mean exactly? I just click the "Upload to Commons" button from the tool; as far as I know, I'm not touching the edit summary.--Leptictidium (talk) 07:39, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Leptictidium: In your last attempt to upload File:Route Punic army messana.svg, logged here, the tool wrote "Added translation for ca." at the end of the comment/summary/reason for you. @GPSLeo: this should have matched. When I translated the file, I got a similar comment/summary/reason (different language abbreviation), without allowing me any input but the language name. I think "contains" would be a much better condition for this than "rlike" in this diff. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:40, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- @GPSLeo: .Leptictidium (talk) 10:05, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- I adapted the filter. Please try if it works now. GPSLeo (talk) 17:50, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll try when I have a few minutes and report back.--Leptictidium (talk) 21:26, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- I adapted the filter. Please try if it works now. GPSLeo (talk) 17:50, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- @GPSLeo: .Leptictidium (talk) 10:05, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Leptictidium: In your last attempt to upload File:Route Punic army messana.svg, logged here, the tool wrote "Added translation for ca." at the end of the comment/summary/reason for you. @GPSLeo: this should have matched. When I translated the file, I got a similar comment/summary/reason (different language abbreviation), without allowing me any input but the language name. I think "contains" would be a much better condition for this than "rlike" in this diff. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:40, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Jeff G.: , what do you mean exactly? I just click the "Upload to Commons" button from the tool; as far as I know, I'm not touching the edit summary.--Leptictidium (talk) 07:39, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Aceptar fotos de Flickr[edit]
Buenas, en Wikimedia Commons se aceptan fotos de Flickr que contiene licencias libres?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 10:19, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- Sí, siempre que esas licencias libres hayan sido usadas por el propietario de los derechos de autor y no por un tercero (ver COM:Flickrwashing). Strakhov (talk) 10:46, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Strakhov:por ejemplo (File:Logo SAAR Bolívar.jpg) que pasa si el Flickreview 2 está valido (OK),es posible que el administrador de Wikimedia no será removido de esta imagen??
- AbchyZa22 (talk) 14:06, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- @AbchyZa22: Puedes usar COM:Café. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:05, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- AbchyZa22: pasa lo que te he dicho, que tú no puedes usar Flickr para blanquear derechos de autor. Flickr no sirve para eso: encontrar por ahí una imagen con derechos de autor de terceros (en internet, en la calle,... donde sea), subirla allí con una licencia libre, y mágicamente convertirla en una imagen libre. Las licencias de Flickr sólo valen cuando son legítimas, esto es, cuando el propietario de la cuenta de Flickr es quien posee los derechos de autor de las "obras" que aparecen en la imagen. Por lo demás, quizás ese logo pueda estar bajo el umbral de la originalidad, quizás pueda no estarlo. Saludos. Strakhov (talk) 14:18, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
Extremely confused[edit]
How did I get here Mikeymad3 (talk) 12:55, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Mikeymad3: Hi, and welcome to Wikimedia Commons. We provide over 100 million files for use in Wikivoyage, other WMF projects like Wikipedia, and other outside projects and reusers. It seems that you were browsing Wikivoyage, clicked on an image or other file you liked, and then clicked on either the "Wikimedia Commons" link or the "description page there" link. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 22:20, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
Are those available for commercial use?[edit]
Are the following three images in the public domain?
If those are in the public domain, I would like to use it. The book will be published in Japan.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ファイル:Queen_Elizabeth_II_and_President_Ford_1976.jpg
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ファイル:Queen_Elizabeth_II_official_portrait_for_1959_tour_(retouched)_(cropped)_(3-to-4_aspect_ratio).jpg Qualiart (talk) 02:24, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Qualiart: Hi, and welcome. Yes, they are. Please use internal links. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 02:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Groupphoto of celebration of prof. dr. H.A. Lorentz jubileum taken at the library of Hollandsche Maatschappij der Wetenschappen[edit]
It said that the picture was taken on November 12 1925. This is not correct, the picture was taken on December 11 1925. Probably a misreading in the digit-notation 11-12-1925 in Europe stands for December 11, in U.S. for November 12. Could you please correct this. Kind regards, Dick Pol poldj@hotmail.com P{.S. I iried to correct the date myself, but I was not allowed to do that. 2001:1C00:240F:6500:5062:228E:6436:985E 10:41, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Could you please give a link to that image? Wouter (talk) 10:49, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Probably File:De huldiging van Professor Lorentz bij de Hollandse Maatschappij der Wetenschappen in 1925.jpg. Notifying the uploader Hannolans. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:00, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Just for confirmation, not just our reasonable analysis of the ambiguous "11-12-1925" date, the cited source is a scan of a newspaper with dateline "12 December 1925". Whether that means we should list it as the 12th (publication) or 11th (reasonably presumed when it was taken?) I'll leave to others to hash out. DMacks (talk) 06:18, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Probably File:De huldiging van Professor Lorentz bij de Hollandse Maatschappij der Wetenschappen in 1925.jpg. Notifying the uploader Hannolans. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:00, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Löschdiskussion[edit]
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
Ich möchte wissen was man unter QS Standards versteht und ob ein Artikel auch von anderen verbessert wird wenn er die nötige Relevanz aufzeigt!
Mit freundlichen Grüssen,
Maximilian Nicola Wenning MaxWenning123 (talk) 11:01, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- @MaxWenning123: Versuchen Sie diese Seite: Hilfe:Übersicht
Création d'une page Wikipédia[edit]
Bonjour,
J'aimerais créer une page Wikipédia pour Mme.Valeria Sanchez et M.Didier Beautemps qui sont de célèbres architectes à Paris, ils ont entre autres réaliser des travaux dans les plus beaux lieus du patrimoine historique de la capital comme : Rénovation du RITZ, Rénovation du FOUR SEASON , rénovation de mairie, de château ou de siège social comme la société général qui est placer sous protection du patrimoine historique, de ce fait j'aimerais avoir la possibilité de leurs crée une page wikipédia afin d'avoir des liens hypertexte qui renverrons directement sur leurs page afin d’accroitre leurs visibilité et d’assoir leurs réputation déjà très bien établie dans leurs domaine de prédilection. RyanSem (talk) 12:02, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- @RyanSem: fr:Aide:Comment créer un article. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:02, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Forged letters bearing a fake signature of Pope John Paul II[edit]
I have several images of documents that were published in the 1980s as genuine and exposed as forgeries; both the forgeries and the official Vatican response denouncing them as such were published by me in 1990 GuyStairSainty (talk) 14:59, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- @GuyStairSainty: It may be more helpful if you could specify the files and the source that they are forgeries. They may still have an educational use as prominent fakes, but if the matter is settled, then they should obviously be identified as inauthentic. GMGtalk 15:14, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- @GuyStairSainty: do I understand correctly that these are things you are proposing to upload, rather than things that are already on Commons? And, if so, do you have any preliminary understanding of their copyright status (since we are unlikely to get a license from a forger)? - Jmabel ! talk 20:10, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Image upload[edit]
Hello, I want to upload a picture of a famous Georgian composer in wikipedia page. I have located the photo in Google, under burusi.wordpress.com The owner or the initial source is not indicated on the website. Please advise how I can proceed? Konstantine B (talk) 20:18, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Konstantine B: Hi,
- We need the formal written permission for a free license from the picture copyright owner. Please see COM:VRT for the procedure. Once you got the permission, you can upload the file and mention the ticket number. Then the permission will be validated by one of the volunteer. Yann (talk) 20:22, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- If it someone modern or recent, it needs proof of free license from the original copyright holder (eg the photographer or the artist who made the original image). If it is an old image, it might be out of copyright depending on details, see Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/Georgia. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:39, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Writing on the photos taken from Wikipedia commons.[edit]
Before, we could download the free images and photos taken from Wikipedia commons and write a title over them with the ¨paint¨ system coming with windows 10. It was extremely useful. Now, this advantage has disappeared, which make all those free images totally useless at least for me. What system can we use to write explanations on those photos? Is it prohibited? Have they been made useless on purpose and why? (They are free photos!) Thank you to inform me. Monsieur Lamaire (talk) 00:27, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Monsieur Lamaire: I'm quite confused. Are you talking about (a) something that has changed within Wikimedia Commons, or (b) something that is different about whatever (unspecified) operating system you are now using than it was in Windows 10, or (c) about something that has changed in later releases of Windows 10? (and by the way, it's "Wikimedia Commons" not "Wikipedia Commons".) - Jmabel ! talk 04:10, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Monsieur Lamaire: Hi, and welcome. Which image type(s) are you unable to write over with Microsoft Paint 10? It is likely that you can use the GIMP instead, as that supports many more image types. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:39, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- A friend of mine showed me how to solve my problem. It's back to normal. Thank you for your help. It was most appreciated. Monsieur Lamaire (talk) 12:53, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Monsieur Lamaire: You're welcome, but you forgot to ping me. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:01, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- A friend of mine showed me how to solve my problem. It's back to normal. Thank you for your help. It was most appreciated. Monsieur Lamaire (talk) 12:53, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Copyright issue- Consent not given[edit]
Good day,
I've recently found out that my work has been used on this site without my permission which has created another problem where another organisation is using it without consent. How do I get it taken down? 41.216.203.147 10:40, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Could you please mention which work? Yann (talk) 10:59, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Yann
- this is it: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rhodes_fall_day.jpg Sthemse (talk) 12:27, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Sthemse: I nominated the file for deletion: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Rhodes fall day.jpg. You can comment in the DR. It will probably be deleted after a week or so. Yann (talk) 12:38, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you what is a DR? Also what do I do about the organisation(s) that have used it believing it was legally attained? Sthemse (talk) 12:43, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Sthemse: DR is an abbreviation for "Deletion request"; please see COM:DR for details. You may use {{Published}} with parameter "legal=no" to indicate that the use of the content was unlicensed. You may also file a DMCA takedown notice against the legal representative(s) of the organization(s); I did so successfully about a week ago. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:59, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you what is a DR? Also what do I do about the organisation(s) that have used it believing it was legally attained? Sthemse (talk) 12:43, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Sthemse: I nominated the file for deletion: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Rhodes fall day.jpg. You can comment in the DR. It will probably be deleted after a week or so. Yann (talk) 12:38, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Who is in this imaeg?[edit]
File:08.03 總統與美國聯邦眾議院議長裴洛西媒體互動會 (52259967861).jpg
Who is in the painting? SeichanGant (talk) 16:31, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Sun Yat-sen. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:15, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- @SeichanGant: Hi, and welcome. In these edits, Nrya added Category:Sun Yat-sen and then moved the image down to Category:Sun Yat-sen in art. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:49, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
Derivative figures included in an open access academic article[edit]
Hi, I recently came across a scholarly article that includes many valuable images related to the embryologist Wilhelm His, Sr. I wish to upload them, but as a first-time user of Wikimedia Commons, I am unsure as to whether permission is required. Most of the figures are photographs of historical images/objects, and the article itself is released under the CC BY 4.0 license (cf. article page and [2]). So I suspect they count as Commons:Derivative works with appropriate licenses and are hence acceptable here.
I have two questions:
1. Would it be acceptable to crop these figures, as most of them are montages of multiple images? In fact, since the montages are created out of various different sources, I think it would be easier to document information if each individual image was cropped and uploaded.
2. The authors go out of their way to specify "image rights" for certain images (e. g., Figure 1D). Is permission necessary for such images, even if the article itself is open access? If so, would it suffice to contact the authors of the article, or would I have to obtain permission from the owners of the "image rights"?
Thank you in advance. Ymed16 (talk) 20:28, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Ymed16: this is a tough one to answer entirely, because potentially each image could have its own issues. At a quick glance, most of this looks old enough to probably (but in some cases not certainly) have passed into the public domain but, for example, portions of Figure 16 do not. So you are going to have to go through this and work it out on a case-by-case basis.
- You mention image 1D; I can see no way this would still be copyrighted.
- It's fine to take individual images out of the larger figures.
- Jmabel ! talk 20:49, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
French speaking editors[edit]
Could any French speakers here help explaining the concept of derivative works and the copyright of film posters to this user? Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Kondotikodro Trade (talk) 23:44, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Trade: I added a link to Commons:VRT. Do you think that her confirmation for the image of her own film will be sufficient or that there is a problem also with the text logo of the festival or something else? -- Asclepias (talk) 02:18, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
Computer generated images used in the contests[edit]
Hello, i am an active member of Wikimedia commons. As amateur photographer, i like to join contests. I use my own photographs taken with my Canon camera. I would like to make sure that only our own images taken as "humans" and not generated by AI are participating in the contests. is there any one of the admin or moderators guys who vet the pictures in the contests? Are we all ensured that no AI Pictures are becoming part of the list of pics that compete in the contest? what happens if some of us check the pics and see that there are some AI pictures in the contest? can we report them or those pics are fully allowed in the competition? (i believe not, but i ask just in case). Thanks for the info that i believe are quite useful to know. Oncewerecolours (talk) 09:51, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Do the contest explicitly forbid AI? Trade (talk) 10:17, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- i didnt find anything that explicitly forbids the usage of AI but i found an implicit statement as you see in "Photo Challenge" page info:
- "The Photo Challenge inspires photographers to take great pictures and upload them to Commons. Monthly thematic competitions encourage participants to try new subjects, new photographic or processing techniques, and to develop skills while improving the Commons repository of free images. Photographs entered into a competition must be new to Commons and taken by a Commons user."
- Added to this is my consideration (that i assume is the consideration made by many of us, as members of Wikimedia : we are talking about contest of pictures, photographs. This is obviously related to an art, photography, made by users. Not by robots, computers, or softwares. They are not allowed to compete, am i wrong?
- Due to this, i would like to suggest to the wikimedia admins to add an explicit rule which forbids the usage of AI generated images in the contest. As participant, i would like to be ensured that only real pictures "taken" by users are part of the contest.
- Thank you to the admins who read this and take in consideration my idea. :) Oncewerecolours (talk) 13:32, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Oncewerecolours: Hi, and welcome. Thank you for participating in the contests and writing here. Your suggestion would be better received as a proposal that could be voted on at COM:VPP. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:38, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Admins have no special role in making rules, only in enforcing them.
- The rules of any given contest are up to the people organizing the contest.
- If it's a photography contest, then presumably only photographs are eligible, but I don't think we have any rule against a more general contest. - Jmabel ! talk 20:44, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Oncewerecolours: Hi, and welcome. Thank you for participating in the contests and writing here. Your suggestion would be better received as a proposal that could be voted on at COM:VPP. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:38, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
How to use the totally free images of wikipedia commons?[edit]
In the past, it was easy to use wikipedia commons. Now, they made it extremely unpleasant and infuriating. It's clearly on purpose since the photos are supposedly free. To improve the difficulty to use the system, I would suggest that they put a 65 pages long tutorial document to be read every time we want to download a photo on our computer. They could also force us to invent five different passwords (to be changed every week) and force us to use three different codes sent on three different telephone numbers. All that should be asked in Chinese or Turkish to make it even more unpleasant. I will try to find more difficult way to use that damned system. Thank you in advance. Monsieur Lamaire (talk) 01:41, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- There is not a single substantive thing in this post. If you have an issue, state it. No, no one is deliberately making this harder. - Jmabel ! talk 02:18, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- I now see that your only prior post was to complain about an issue that apparently turned out not to be an issue. - Jmabel ! talk 02:20, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Excluding a user's uploads from search?[edit]
If I want to not see a certain user's uploads when searching for files, is there a way to do that? Appending to my search the expected "-User:Example" doesn't work. –Vuccala (talk) 14:02, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
I assume that you have already explored the search help of MediaWiki and found nothing. I do not know an answer. But here is an idea. If you want to exclude a user's uploads, presumably it may be because that user has a lot of uploads? And if the user has a lot of uploads, then, with a bit of luck, there may be a category such as "Category:Uploads by Example". And then you could search with -incategory:"Uploads by Example". -- Asclepias (talk) 15:21, 21 December 2023 (UTC)- After more thought, that idea was not useful, because if the string "Example" is displayed only in a category, it is found by the simple "-Example". What we are looking for is a way to exclude also files where the string is present only in the upload history. -- Asclepias (talk) 03:46, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Assuming that user's name
USERNAME
is in the wikitext for their uploads,-insource:"USERNAME"
should work. - Jmabel ! talk 19:40, 21 December 2023 (UTC)- Thank you, that does the job!
And I see we can also include the–Vuccala (talk) 09:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)User:
bit like so-insource:User:USERNAME
- Vuccala Note that this will only work, if the user has oneself included as author (usually). This won’t work for files where the user is only the uploader, e.g. the search query
file: bluecheek butterflyfishes
yields today 4 results. But the queryfile: bluecheek butterflyfishes -insource:"user:Speravir"
will not filter out the image I’ve uploaded. — Speravir – 23:18, 22 December 2023 (UTC)- But that's the thing? @Vuccala wants to exclude the files authored by a specific user, not files that have been uploaded by a user, but are imported and could have been imported by anyone else? OTOH if you want to exclude mass uploads by a user (if only few search results are from the user, then why make the effort to exlude this few unwanted files from the search result), Then there will be in most cases a category like "imports from XY-GLAM by UserYX". C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 13:32, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- That's not how I read the OP's question. Although it would help if they clarified it with at least an actual case. If the goal was merely to exclude all files authored by a user, identified in the description pages, the simple "-Username" should do it. (Not "-User:Username", because "User:" is generally either not displayed or not written, although it would be found with -insource if it is written in the wikicode.) The OP says that they do not want to see the "user's uploads", which I understand as meaning all files uploaded by the user, including all the files not authored by the user, and including all the files where the username is not present (save in the file history), which is precisely the difficulty. Filtering with categories was my first idea mentioned above, but it probably has no more advantage than the simple "-Username". The -insource syntax may find also the rare cases where the username is present in the wikicode without being displayed. There's apparently still no easy solution to exclude all uploads by a user. -- Asclepias (talk) 14:43, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'd like to exclude files both authored and uploaded by a user, but I think the solution Jmabel gave works well enough. (and a correction, yes, just
-insource:"USERNAME"
is better, without theUser:
bit.)
@Asclepias: I'll clarify with an actual case. I'm often searching for photos of animals and get many unwanted results of some user's bulk upload of sports teams/entertainers/cartoons/etc. that contain that animal name. For example, searching "vixen" is frustrating because there's an entertainer with that name but since most of the uploads are from "S._Bollmann" I can now append"-insource:S._Bollmann"
to get rid of them. But continuing, there's further unwanted results of museum pottery uploaded by user "Pharos" which I'd like to remove, but since his username isn't in the source,-insource:Pharos
doesn't work but I can instead use something like-insource:metmuseum
.
The main thing, I think, is that I'm pretty new here and it didn't occur to me to use-insource:
along with authors/usernames like that.–Vuccala (talk) 14:32, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'd like to exclude files both authored and uploaded by a user, but I think the solution Jmabel gave works well enough. (and a correction, yes, just
- That's not how I read the OP's question. Although it would help if they clarified it with at least an actual case. If the goal was merely to exclude all files authored by a user, identified in the description pages, the simple "-Username" should do it. (Not "-User:Username", because "User:" is generally either not displayed or not written, although it would be found with -insource if it is written in the wikicode.) The OP says that they do not want to see the "user's uploads", which I understand as meaning all files uploaded by the user, including all the files not authored by the user, and including all the files where the username is not present (save in the file history), which is precisely the difficulty. Filtering with categories was my first idea mentioned above, but it probably has no more advantage than the simple "-Username". The -insource syntax may find also the rare cases where the username is present in the wikicode without being displayed. There's apparently still no easy solution to exclude all uploads by a user. -- Asclepias (talk) 14:43, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- But that's the thing? @Vuccala wants to exclude the files authored by a specific user, not files that have been uploaded by a user, but are imported and could have been imported by anyone else? OTOH if you want to exclude mass uploads by a user (if only few search results are from the user, then why make the effort to exlude this few unwanted files from the search result), Then there will be in most cases a category like "imports from XY-GLAM by UserYX". C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 13:32, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Vuccala Note that this will only work, if the user has oneself included as author (usually). This won’t work for files where the user is only the uploader, e.g. the search query
- Thank you, that does the job!
- Oh, I have to correct myself, because a slightly different query stings works:
file: bluecheek butterflyfishes -"Speravir"
(in my case also without the quotes, but this depends on, how unique a user name is). — Speravir – 23:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)- The string "Speravir" is displayed in the license review section of that description page. That's possibly how the syntax "-Speravir" finds it. The string "User:Speravir" is not present, even in the wikicode, and it is not found with -insource. But the string "Speravir" is present and is found. The -insource:username does not work when the uploader's username is present only in the file history. For example, the file File:James Weddell Expedition.jpg is not filtered out by it. (By the way, does the review of File:2 Bluecheek butterflyfishes (px-380037).jpg meet the condition "Reviews by image-reviewers on their own uploads will be considered invalid."?) -- Asclepias (talk) 03:46, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
History of India[edit]
I want to know all about Indian gods Orefile Dyonta (talk) 23:05, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Orefile Dyonta Wikimedia Commons is a repository of pictures. You might be better advised to visit w:en:Wikipedia:Reference desk 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 23:17, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- But given that there are literally millions of Hindu deities, plus various other religions in India, you might start with Religion in India. - Jmabel ! talk 00:19, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
What are the copyright laws in the EU of inherited artworks.[edit]
I am working on the Wikipedia page of my great-grandfather, who was a famous painter in Hungary. We'd like to upload some of his work to the site, but I'm not sure about the copyright laws. He died 52 years ago. He had a son (my grandfather) who inherited all his paintings and drawings. He has approved for me to upload some paintings, but we don't know if that's enough. Szerkesztő.2244 (talk) 10:45, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Szerkesztő.2244: The normal copyright terms is 70 years after death per [:Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Hungary]] but, until that time is over, the heir could release the paintings under a free licence we accept. If the image includes a frame or something 3-dimensional outside the painting area itself, the photographer's permission is additionally required. It sounds like your grandfather is still the copyright holder, so we would need to obtain his permission. He can do that by completing the consent as detailed on this page Commons:Email templates/Consent. Then you can use one of these copyright templates specifically for heirs Category:License tags for transferred copyright, preferably one of the first 5 listed. Ww2censor (talk) 11:02, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you! Szerkesztő.2244 (talk) 11:14, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Ww2censor: more precisely, the father is now the copyright-holder, having inherited the intellectual property rights from the grandfather. But, yes. Also: @Szerkesztő.2244: you might want to ask your father to word the permission broadly, authorizing you on this account to upload any of your grandfather's works on his behalf, and granting the license in advance for any of those that you upload. - Jmabel ! talk 19:38, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: it was not clear to me if it was the father or grandfather who dies 52 years ago. However, the permission should obviously come from the current living inheritor. Ww2censor (talk) 19:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Ww2censor: Ooh, I'm sorry, I appparently misread, you were probably entirely right. Anyway, the advice remains fundamentally the same: the email needs to come from the person who holds the rights. @Szerkesztő.2244: will this be workable for you? There are other ways around this if it is not, but they are more cumbersome. - Jmabel ! talk 20:01, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. I think I'll be able to solve it. Szerkesztő.2244 (talk) 20:13, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Please help me find the licenses for the logo of FC sporting Madeira[edit]
Please help me find the licenses for the logo of FC sporting Madeira https://sportingdamadeira.pt/ BELORECKIYSHARIK (talk) 14:31, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- @BELORECKIYSHARIK: Presumably there is no free license available: there wouldn't normally be for something like this. The question is whether it is copyrightable. If you can find an example of pretty much exactly that "lion rampant" from the 19th Century (the easiest way to establish that the lion is public domain), I'd say there is nothing else copyrightable in that logo, so with that citation of prior art it would be uploadable to Commons with some combination of PD licenses (probably {{PD-old-assumed-expired}} for the lion and {{PD-textlogo}} for the rest, plus {{Trademarked}}. That's a little tricky, so if you upload it on that basis please link it here on Help desk (in this section, if this section hasn't been archived) so that someone can check your work and fix it if you didn't get it quite right.
- Again, the key to that is finding a 19th-century or earlier image that is clearly the same "lion rampant". - Jmabel ! talk 19:46, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Commons policy on open proxy, TOR and simmilar[edit]
Do we have an policy on users using open proxies, TOR and simmilar? Juandev (talk) 15:42, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Juandev: We block those when found (fine for reading, of course). There is a way for a particular account to be made an exception. Are you asking because you need to access Commons that way, or just out of curiosity (or for some other reason)? - Jmabel ! talk 19:52, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Permitir fotos de tabla con captura de pantalla[edit]
Buenas, una pregunta Wikimedia está permitido subir fotos de una tabla (por ejemplo File:Resultadoscne2004.jpg) esta foto no representa el Logo ni nada, solamente una tabla con los resultados de una elección en el que un político fue electo como Alcalde, y segundo el Usuario fue subido por una captura de pantalla (screenshot)?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 23:09, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- @AbchyZa22: el parte arriba contiene una linea de fotos que presumiblemente tienen derechos de autor. Eso no se permite.
- Normalmente, no aceptamos tablas en la forma de imágenes. Hay excepciones ocasionales. ¿Por qué esta mesa pertenecería a Commons? ¿Por qué es importante tenerlo en una forma visual (en comparación con una tabla HTML en un artículo relevante)? - Jmabel ! talk 00:03, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Category:Battle of Mkalamo[edit]
Hi I just created this new category, which I intend to be a subcategory of the parent Category:East African Campaign (World War I) but I can’t figure out how to do this using HotCat and don’t want to make a mess. Could someone please point me to the right instruction or establish the relationship for me? Thanks Mccapra (talk) 07:20, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Convenience link: Category:Battle of Mkalamo. - Jmabel ! talk 10:22, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- {ping|Mccapra}} Done. Basically, what you accidentally did with [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Help_desk&diff=prev&oldid=833850527 your edit here is exactly how you put a page (or a category, or file) in a category. - Jmabel ! talk 10:25, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Category:Category:Cantonal police of the [editing] question[edit]
Wondering if it can be edited to put the correct links? It's in here. Ominae (talk) 07:44, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Well the category has already some images see Category:Kantonspolizei Thurgau. If you want to ad images to the category, the categories are at the bottom of every page and with hitting the + sign a field in which you can add letters in it opens. Then the available categories will appear. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 15:48, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Nah. I'm talking about the "Cantons of Switzerland" portion for Kantonspolizei Thurgau (I'll use that). The "Cantons of Switzerland" has URLs going to commons page for the various Swiss cantonal police forces. I'm trying to see if it can be edited in order to update the links. Ominae (talk) 04:43, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion![edit]
Are there any options for speedy deletion of images, or is there a separate process to nominate unambiguous copyrighted images for deletion apart from the usual nomination process? Jeraxmoira (talk) 18:32, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira: Commons:Criteria for speedy deletion. Also {{Copyvio}}. - Jmabel ! talk 19:16, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, Jmabel. This is very helpful. Is there a Twinkle alternative for commons, or should the tags be placed manually? Jeraxmoira (talk) 19:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira: I've never used Twinkle, so I have no basis or comparison. Speedy-deletion tags can be placed either manually or with VFC (for multiple identical SD requests). I suspect there are other ways as well, but these are the two I use. Do note, though: when asking for something to be speedy-deleted as a copyvio, you probably don't want to do something "mass", because you should present evidence (like a link to source). - Jmabel ! talk 20:18, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. I occasionally come here from EN Wiki to nominate copyvio images for deletion. Hopefully, nothing in mass numbers for now. Cheers <3 Jeraxmoira (talk) 20:46, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira: Hi, and welcome. The preferred method for marking copyright violations is the "Report copyright violation" tool (which requires a reason). I use m:User:Xiplus/TwinkleGlobal for speed (it uses the generic {{Speedy}}), but you may prefer to use {{SD}} with a particular criterion from COM:CSD in parameter 1 and follow through (please check your work the first time). — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 17:51, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, Jeff G. I have installed it. So if I'm tagging a copyright violation, I need to go: CSD -> Custom Rationale -> {{copyvio|reason or source}}, right? Jeraxmoira (talk) 05:40, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira: No, you could just paste that, or fix it later like this. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 06:10, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ah I understand now, thank you Jeff G. Jeraxmoira (talk) 20:27, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira: You're welcome. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 20:42, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ah I understand now, thank you Jeff G. Jeraxmoira (talk) 20:27, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira: No, you could just paste that, or fix it later like this. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 06:10, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, Jeff G. I have installed it. So if I'm tagging a copyright violation, I need to go: CSD -> Custom Rationale -> {{copyvio|reason or source}}, right? Jeraxmoira (talk) 05:40, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira: Hi, and welcome. The preferred method for marking copyright violations is the "Report copyright violation" tool (which requires a reason). I use m:User:Xiplus/TwinkleGlobal for speed (it uses the generic {{Speedy}}), but you may prefer to use {{SD}} with a particular criterion from COM:CSD in parameter 1 and follow through (please check your work the first time). — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 17:51, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. I occasionally come here from EN Wiki to nominate copyvio images for deletion. Hopefully, nothing in mass numbers for now. Cheers <3 Jeraxmoira (talk) 20:46, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira: I've never used Twinkle, so I have no basis or comparison. Speedy-deletion tags can be placed either manually or with VFC (for multiple identical SD requests). I suspect there are other ways as well, but these are the two I use. Do note, though: when asking for something to be speedy-deleted as a copyvio, you probably don't want to do something "mass", because you should present evidence (like a link to source). - Jmabel ! talk 20:18, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, Jmabel. This is very helpful. Is there a Twinkle alternative for commons, or should the tags be placed manually? Jeraxmoira (talk) 19:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Subir fotos de emblema Municipal[edit]
Buenas, Wikimedia esta permitido subir fotos de emblemas Municipales, por ejemplo explicame una emblema municipal en general y en Venezuela?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 23:22, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- @AbchyZa22: ¿Quien tomó la foto? ¿Cuál es el estado de los derechos de autor del emblema? - Jmabel ! talk 23:51, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jmabel:Buenas, File:Coat of arms of Caracas (2022).png, está foto publicó en 2022 por el Concejo Municipal Bolivariano Libertador de Caracas, y está foto se trata de una emblema municipal y la foto parece estar en el "Dominio Público" la licencia. AbchyZa22 (talk) 10:57, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- @AbchyZa22: (1) Esto no es un foto. (2) No puedo leer el fuente sin registrar (y no quierlo registrar con el sitio); por eso no puedo decir nada sobre una posible licensia allí. (3) No soy experto en las leyes de Venezuela. Si es verdad que cada emblema de cada institución governmental en Venezuela es libre de derechos del autor, claramente sería en esta alcance. Pero yo no tengo ningún idea si es verdad o no. - Jmabel ! talk 23:34, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- For information, archived copies of the full source article can be read at archive.org, but it doesn't provide any information about the copyright. That newspaper may have reproduced the image by some reason of fair use or news media or something else. If the artwork is determined to be free for some convincing reason, preferably by a declaration from the council and the artist or a related court decision or an authoritative legal commentary, Commons could upload it directly from an official source. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:06, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @AbchyZa22: (1) Esto no es un foto. (2) No puedo leer el fuente sin registrar (y no quierlo registrar con el sitio); por eso no puedo decir nada sobre una posible licensia allí. (3) No soy experto en las leyes de Venezuela. Si es verdad que cada emblema de cada institución governmental en Venezuela es libre de derechos del autor, claramente sería en esta alcance. Pero yo no tengo ningún idea si es verdad o no. - Jmabel ! talk 23:34, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jmabel:Buenas, File:Coat of arms of Caracas (2022).png, está foto publicó en 2022 por el Concejo Municipal Bolivariano Libertador de Caracas, y está foto se trata de una emblema municipal y la foto parece estar en el "Dominio Público" la licencia. AbchyZa22 (talk) 10:57, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Commons:Deletion requests/File:Coat of arms of Caracas (2022).png[edit]
Buenas Administradores de Wikimedia, una pregunta para ustedes, dime una opinión es posible remover (deleted) o quedarse (kept) con respecto a la polémica de que el emblema municipal está en el Dominio Público porque según en el artículo 325 de la Ley Orgánica del Trabajo, los Trabajadores y las Trabajadoras. Además del artículo 2 de la Ley sobre Derechos de Autor, que establece qué creaciones están sometidas a derechos de autor? AbchyZa22 (talk) 17:21, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- The best way to have a safe answer about the copyright status of the official version of this artwork would be to obtain an official statement on this matter from the municipal council of Caracas and from Omar Cruz, the artist who created the artwork. Someone interested should try to obtain that.
- Other than that, it is a question for jurists in Venezuelan law.
- Here, I think we can only make a few partial observations:
- Someone in the DR quotes some bits of art. 2 of the copyright law to argue that this artistic work is not covered by the copyright law. That doesn't work. Cf. the first paragraph of art. 1: "Las disposiciones de esta Ley protegen los derechos de los autores sobre todas las obras del ingenio de caracter creador, ya sean de indole literaria, cientifica o artistica, cualesquiera sea su género, forma de expresion, mérito o destino." and the end of art. 2: "Se consideran comprendidas, entre las obras del ingenio a que se refiere el articulo anterior, especialmente las siguientes: [...] toda produccion literaria, cientifica o artistica suseptible de ser divulgada o publicada por cualquier medio o procedimiento.". Art. 2 is not limitative. There is nothing in that article that excludes artistic works from the law just because they are artistic renderings of coats of arms.
- In the Ley Orgánica, art. 321 states "Normativa aplicable: Toda producción intelectual que se genere en el proceso social de trabajo se regirá por las leyes que regulan la materia, bien sean: obras del intelecto o actividades conexas, invenciones, diseños industriales o marcas. [...]". The various articles from 320 to 329 do not always mention the same terms. For example, art. 329 mentions "obras de carácter [...] artístico". The title of art. 325 mentions "Invenciones, innovaciones y mejoras". One would have to determine if art. 325 applies to this type of artistic works, and, if so, then one would have to determine if this particular work by Omar Cruz was "generada bajo relación de trabajo en el sector público, o financiada a través de fondos públicos". All that is a matter for specialized jurists in Venezuelan law.
- Another thing to consider is to determine what the copyright status of the work is in the United States. If it is in the public domain in Venezuela, what is the status in the United States and who, if anyone, owns the copyright in the United States? That question could be asked also at Commons:Village pump/Copyright.
- Again, instead of debating on Commons, the best and easiest solution is to obtain a statement from the municipal council of Caracas and from Omar Cruz. If they agree that this work is in the public domain in Venezuela and in the United States, then the matter is solved to the satisfaction of everybody. If they say that it is protected by copyright and not free, either in Venezuela or in the United States, then it is better to not host it on Commons, unless someone is prepared to have a legal argument with them. -- Asclepias (talk) 20:56, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Stijn Smeulders[edit]
Zie https://www.brabant.nl/bestuur/gedeputeerde-staten/stijn-smeulders/persfotos-stijn-smeulders, er staat 'Deze persfoto's van Stijn Smeulders zijn kosteloos te gebruiken voor publicitaire doeleinden, mits de naam van de fotograaf wordt vermeld'.
Maar er is geen expliciete toestemming van de fotograaf zelf, Marc Bolsius. Mogen foto's dan alsnog geüpload worden? JasperWiki86 (talk) 00:06, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- @JasperWiki86: "voor publicitaire doeleinden" is much more of a limitation than Commons will accept. See Commons:Licensing#Acceptable licenses (surprisingly, not available in a Dutch translation). - Jmabel ! talk 02:03, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Can someone read this signature?[edit]
Can anyone read the signature on the photo at File:The Town Crier, v.15, no.47, Nov. 20, 1920 - DPLA - e4f9b50e68fa4f2e208e390a8311e8ec (page 14).jpg? - Jmabel ! talk 02:10, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: I can't make it out, except for the letters LA (for Los Angeles) on the second line. But this appears to be one of several publicity photos of Walthall taken by, or at least published by, the Category:Photoplayers Studio in Los Angeles, which was active in the 1910s and 20s: here's a copy of the same photo, with the Photoplayers signature; and here's another photo obviously taken at the same sitting, again with the Photoplayers signature. If the version published in the Town Crier has a different signature, perhaps the original photographer joined the studio, or studio bought out and rebranded his work? Crawdad Blues (talk) 14:08, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Incidentally, I think the file name and description of File:Henry B. Walthall in Ibsen's "Ghosts".jpg is misleading. This appears to be one of a series of general publicity photos, not a photo of Walthall specifically in the role of Osvald in Ibsen's Ghosts, and the source doesn't claim that the photo has anything to do with Ghosts. It simply says that (a) this is a photo of Walthall, and (b) he will be appearing in the play on the following Sunday. Crawdad Blues (talk) 17:39, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, Crawdad Blues, I'll follow up on that. - Jmabel ! talk 00:22, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Searching around at archive.org and newspapers.com, I found that the LA Photoplayers Studio was founded in 1914 – by three persons, G(eorge) G. Wells, E(thel) F. Vincent, and Harry N. Naugle –, and the last I could find of them was a 1919 newspaper item that they had won a lawsuit against comedians Kolb and Dill. So they might have been already out of business in 1920, with some other photographer or studio taking over their negatives. --Rosenzweig τ 01:40, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- That gives a very good indication. It allows to say that the signature looks like Wells & Vincent. Compare for example with this and this. -- Asclepias (talk) 02:45, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ha :-) Harry D. Naugle (not "N." as I first thought) was a guy active in film distribution. He was the manager of Clune's Broadway Theatre in LA until 1914, then worked for various "exchange" companies as they were called then, in 1917 for Vitagraph. He was probably the guy providing money and left to pursue other career goals. That leaves the other two as the actual photographers. I didn't have much luck finding anything about George G. Wells, but Ancestry gave me an Ethel Vincent, born in Minnesota in 1892, present in LA from 1910 and apparently a photographer. That might be the Ethel F. Vincent we have here. --Rosenzweig τ 12:07, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- That gives a very good indication. It allows to say that the signature looks like Wells & Vincent. Compare for example with this and this. -- Asclepias (talk) 02:45, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Incidentally, I think the file name and description of File:Henry B. Walthall in Ibsen's "Ghosts".jpg is misleading. This appears to be one of a series of general publicity photos, not a photo of Walthall specifically in the role of Osvald in Ibsen's Ghosts, and the source doesn't claim that the photo has anything to do with Ghosts. It simply says that (a) this is a photo of Walthall, and (b) he will be appearing in the play on the following Sunday. Crawdad Blues (talk) 17:39, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Edit summary[edit]
I am a newbie in Wikimedia Commons. So, I need help in typing an edit summary for a picture which is copyrighted. Can anyone help me? Thank you in advance. Bolboks (talk) 09:47, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean by "a picture which is copyrighted" - If it is not free licensed, it does not belong here on Commons. See COM:License. Cheers, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:14, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
PD-US[edit]
Hi, I wanted to transfer this file from Flickr. It seems to be old enough to be in public domain. But I couldn't find any specific date in which it was built or placed there. Should I still transfer it here anyway? If I do which PD tag should I use? Syrus257 (talk) 14:03, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Syrus257, we have a category for the Elmwood cemetery with other grave stones which seem of lesser age. I suggest to upload it and leave a short description about when the lady died. For the question below I have no answer. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 15:43, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Paradise Chronicle Thanks. Syrus257 (talk) 05:21, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Another question. This Flickr user uploaded his images under CC BY 2.0 license. But in his "about" page he wrote that he forbid the usages of his pictures in pornographic, violent or radical context. Here in Commons only the materials that can used "by anyone, anytime, for any purpose" are allowed. So can I still transfer the images from this flickr account?Syrus257 (talk) 15:07, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Syrus257: I think that you may not; the user is sowing so much confusion that the the files would qualify for deletion per pcp. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 17:31, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. What happens if a flickr author decides to make the same announcement long after their work has been transferred here? Syrus257 (talk) 05:17, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Syrus257 Actually there is also a shortcut. We also host such files on commons. I am sure the flickr uploader would allow its use on wikipedia, but unfortunately (at least in this specific case) commons is not only for wikipedia. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 05:23, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Paradise Chronicle I'm little confused. Maybe it has something to do with my poor English. Could you please say it in more details? Syrus257 (talk) 05:41, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- On commons there are also pictures with pornographic, violent and radical content, for informational purposes of course, but such files still exist. Also, what is so exceptional in those images? We have thousands of similar images on commons. If there is one specific image you want to use in an article, we'll help you to find one. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 06:37, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Paradise Chronicle I'm little confused. Maybe it has something to do with my poor English. Could you please say it in more details? Syrus257 (talk) 05:41, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Syrus257 AIUI, they can relicense all their works on Flickr in one fell swoop. We can counter with {{Flickr-change-of-license}}. Fortunately, Flickr now shows us the license history. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 05:55, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. Undersood. But my question was, what if they change their user page or image description after their images are being transferred here? For example, I transferred File:Quebec-00024 - Saint Joan of Arc.jpg here 2 days ago. It is published under CC BY-SA 2.0 license. Now what if the author of this image decides today that he won't allow people to use this image in some specific cases, and write it on his user page without replacing the existing license. Then what should be done? Syrus257 (talk) 06:25, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Syrus257: That can be noted in the description, but it would not be a reason to delete because the CC BY-SA 2.0 license is irrevocable. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 06:35, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- And even if we don't know if those conditions were added before or after the transfer? Syrus257 (talk) 06:48, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Syrus257: If before, then the license reviewer may tag it for deletion. If after, then an argument can be made at DR, and an Admin will choose. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 07:00, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. I have some more questions. But it is Christmas and you probably have many other things to do. We can discuss them later. Thank you for your time. And Merry Christmas. Syrus257 (talk) 07:12, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Syrus257: Same to you. Ask away. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:56, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. I have some more questions. But it is Christmas and you probably have many other things to do. We can discuss them later. Thank you for your time. And Merry Christmas. Syrus257 (talk) 07:12, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Syrus257: If before, then the license reviewer may tag it for deletion. If after, then an argument can be made at DR, and an Admin will choose. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 07:00, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. Undersood. But my question was, what if they change their user page or image description after their images are being transferred here? For example, I transferred File:Quebec-00024 - Saint Joan of Arc.jpg here 2 days ago. It is published under CC BY-SA 2.0 license. Now what if the author of this image decides today that he won't allow people to use this image in some specific cases, and write it on his user page without replacing the existing license. Then what should be done? Syrus257 (talk) 06:25, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Syrus257 Actually there is also a shortcut. We also host such files on commons. I am sure the flickr uploader would allow its use on wikipedia, but unfortunately (at least in this specific case) commons is not only for wikipedia. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 05:23, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. What happens if a flickr author decides to make the same announcement long after their work has been transferred here? Syrus257 (talk) 05:17, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, I would send the author a message to be sure that he understands the meaning of the free license he chose for his files. Then if he didn't change the license after a few days, I would upload files to Commons. He couldn't say afterwards that he wasn't informed. Yann (talk) 08:50, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Accès aux photos d'immeubles protégés de Cologne[edit]
Bonjour comment se fait-il que je ne peux avoir accès sur le site "liste der baudenkmaler im kolner stadtteil neustadt sud" à la photo du bâtiment n° 7 Utrechterstrasse. Merci MESLET-ARENE (talk) 15:22, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello, how come I cannot have access to the photo of building no. 7 Utrechterstrasse on the site "liste der baudenkmaler im kolner stadtteil neustadt sud". THANKS
- @MESLET-ARENE: Bonjour et bienvenue. Où pouvons-nous exactement trouver ce site, cette page ou cette liste, traduite par «Liste des monuments architecturaux du quartier Neustadt Süd de Cologne»?
- Hi, and welcome. Where exactly may we find that site, page, or list, translated as "List of architectural monuments in the Neustadt Süd district of Cologne"? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 17:25, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- @MESLET-ARENE: Bonjour, si vous parlez de la page «Liste der Baudenkmäler im Kölner Stadtteil Neustadt-Süd» de la Wikipédia de langue allemande, c'est parce qu'il n'y a pas de ligne pour des bâtiments de l'Utrechter Straße dans cette page. Il y en a dans la page «Liste der Baudenkmäler im Kölner Stadtteil Neustadt-Nord», dont une ligne pour ce bâtiment no. 7, mais il n'y a pas de photo de ce bâtiment, vraisemblablement parce que personne n'en a inséré une. Si vous connaissez une photo libre de ce bâtiment, n'hésitez pas à l'y ajouter. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:14, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Lighten background of Hibex.jpg[edit]
I was wondering if someone might be able to "lighten" the background of the image File:Hibex.jpg so that the subject missile stands out more? It's a busy image! Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:39, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- I could not access the links given as sources for the image. HIBEX and www.wsmr-history.org. Wouter (talk) 19:21, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Wouterhagens: The links were last archived by the Internet Archive at https://web.archive.org/web/20210201092358/http://www.wsmr-history.org/HIBEX.htm and https://web.archive.org/web/20210506190621/http://wsmr-history.org/ . — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 04:44, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Maury Markowitz: requests like this are best made at Commons:Graphic Lab/Photography workshop. - Jmabel ! talk 23:36, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- I looked everywhere for a link to such a page. The "Help center" on the left does not link to it. There is a completely different "Help desk" (here), which is reached only through "Village pump", which makes it difficult to imagine how one might find it (why isn't a link to the Help desk on the Help center?). The link, which I see now at the top right, disappears when one presses + to add a comment to this page. Very confusing.
- So, armed with the title you provided, I found and went to the page, and clicked the button to make a new request. That resulted in a page of gobblygook with unicode characters and multiple templates. Do we expect new users to be able to use this? Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:15, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Maury Markowitz: In a word: yes. You don't like the uparrows in the HTML comment? Would you prefer carets? Our Graphic Lab and subpages are linked from our Village pump and Community portal. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:49, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Sattar Alvi image[edit]
I am not aware if this image is free to use or not. thi MrGreen1163 (talk) 20:37, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- @MrGreen1163: I'm not sure what you mean in this context by "free to use." If you are asking whether it is suitable to upload to Commons, the answer is almost certainly not. There is certainly nothing on that page to suggest that is is anything other than a copyrighted, unlicensed image (and quite possibly not legally used on that page: Pinterest is very lax about copyrights). - Jmabel ! talk 00:11, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
MP3 Uploading[edit]
Hello. I heard that on there: i must have some experience to be able to upload MP3's. I have good reasons to want that, they can be found on the history of that help desk. When will I be able to upload MP3's? If that require some group joinages, may i join that groups (while i don't made very much changes and uploades in there i am more active in the Turkish Wikipedia and i am a white list on there)? RuzDD (talk) 23:47, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- @RuzDD: on the first page of your preferences (Special:Preferences), what does it list as "Member of groups"? - Jmabel ! talk 00:20, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @RuzDD: Hi again. I am sorry to inform you that you have triggered Special:AbuseFilter/192 by trying to upload an mp3 file with insufficient rights. Too many people try to upload audio files that are still copyrighted by the authors, performers, recorders, publishing companies, etc. without proper licenses from those people. Please document fully the sources and licenses of your audio uploads, and request Autopatrol group membership at COM:RFR when you think you are ready (once you have made more than 500 useful non-botlike edits); having that should allow you to upload mp3 files. Until then, you may reencode the audio into Vorbis or Opus and upload it with full documentation as an .ogg or .oga file (or use any other format accepted per COM:FT#Sound). — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 04:32, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, but i want to ask another thing: is the reason of copyrighted musics generally uploaded as MP3 this is a very common format? If that is true, i think 8000, 11025, and 12000 (maybe also twices of these) Hz MP3's must not trigger an abusefilter because these sampling rates are not very common and they will be enough for me :) RuzDD (talk) 12:34, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @RuzDD: No, that is not the reason. There is a plethora of MP3 files containing non-free music on the Internet, and we cannot host them thanks to RIAA's influence on US copyright laws. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:44, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. I mean that, and i know that MP3's on the Internet are generally at the sampling rate of 32000, 44100, or 48000 Hz and 8000, 11025, and 12000 Hz rates are most uncommons. Can anyone modify the filter to allow 8000, 11025 and 12000 Hz (and maybe also 16000, 22050 and 24000 Hz) MP3's? RuzDD (talk) 12:59, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @RuzDD: I don't think the filtering system is sophisticated enough to detect and act on sampling rates. You may file a task via phab: requesting that. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:03, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. I mean that, and i know that MP3's on the Internet are generally at the sampling rate of 32000, 44100, or 48000 Hz and 8000, 11025, and 12000 Hz rates are most uncommons. Can anyone modify the filter to allow 8000, 11025 and 12000 Hz (and maybe also 16000, 22050 and 24000 Hz) MP3's? RuzDD (talk) 12:59, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @RuzDD: No, that is not the reason. There is a plethora of MP3 files containing non-free music on the Internet, and we cannot host them thanks to RIAA's influence on US copyright laws. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:44, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, but i want to ask another thing: is the reason of copyrighted musics generally uploaded as MP3 this is a very common format? If that is true, i think 8000, 11025, and 12000 (maybe also twices of these) Hz MP3's must not trigger an abusefilter because these sampling rates are not very common and they will be enough for me :) RuzDD (talk) 12:34, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
File:Electrochemical Immunosensors with Nanomaterial Assistance for Signal Amplification.webp has been marked for speedy deletion as promotional material.[edit]
Hi there. There is NO ads in this image. Best wishes. DoctorNaturopath (talk) 11:23, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @DoctorNaturopath: Hi, and welcome. メイド理世 just tagged File:Electrochemical Immunosensors with Nanomaterial Assistance for Signal Amplification.webp as such for a minute. Please use internal links. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:55, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. And thank you for supporting Ukraine! DoctorNaturopath (talk) 12:00, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @DoctorNaturopath: You're welcome. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:13, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. And thank you for supporting Ukraine! DoctorNaturopath (talk) 12:00, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
如何重新上傳新檔案[edit]
我不知道如何重新上傳新檔案,由於舊的有問題。 我是一隻北極熊 (talk) 12:34, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Google Translate says this is "How to re-upload a new file: I don't know how to re-upload the new archive since the old one had issues." I'm not sure I understand the question; I'm guessing you want to overwrite your own upload. In English, there is a link under the file history section, "Upload a new version of this file". I don't know what that would be in Chinese; Google Translate gives, "上傳此文件的新版本". - Jmabel ! talk 21:14, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: Every file description page viewed with "uselang=zh" shows a "上传该文件的新版本" link to the uploader and autopatrollers+. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 21:24, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Red 34 Ford Pickup with tonneau cover[edit]
Why is the pickup called a utility, is this a common AUSIE reference for a pickup? I live in the USA and own a custom 36 Chevy low window pickup that I had an aluminum "Flush Fit" Tonneau cover made for it ! I now have a 2003 Chevy XTREME Step Side I would like to buy a Tonneau Cover for but after so many years of hunting I`m going to have to build one from a Standard long bed... I hope it works! Thanks Rod 173.47.24.96 21:55, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, and welcome. Other than a referral to eBay Motors, this does not appear to relate to Wikimedia Commons, where you posted it. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 22:00, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Upload audio ogg file, adding "children" to infobox, adding "signature" to infobox[edit]
Hello, How do I add and audio file (ogg) to Wiki Commons? I am not sure what choices to make. It is for a musical artist. I am building her wikipedia pages. I would like to add "children" and her "signature" to her infobox. However I do not have the choices for "children" nor "signature." Do you give permission for this? If I go to the Community Portal, would they be able to help me with this?
Thanks, Demetrius Wiki-Wiki-2028 (talk) 11:56, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Wiki-Wiki-2028 Oh dear, so many things come together and get mixed up. I assume the article for the musician was supposed to be in the English Wikipedia and has already been deleted. That's something you need to clarify on the English-language Wikipedia and not here on Commons. Likewise the questions about the infobox and the children. You have uploaded several images here on Commons. One with the signature. That's fine so far and when the article is (again) available on the English-language Wikipedia, you can also clarify this there. However, you have uploaded further images of which you say that you are the author. However, these are very low-resolution images. This is undesirable here and is often a sign of stolen images. So if they really are yours, please upload them in full resolution and verify them with VRT. The VRT process has already started for one image, but you will probably have to add more. Then you seem to be writing on behalf of the musician, you must at least disclose this on the English-language Wikipedia, otherwise you will be banned. You can also find out how to do this there, not here. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 15:51, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- On the conflict-of-interest issue (an issue mainly on Wikipedia, not here on Commons), see en:WP:COI. And I strongly recommend you make the required disclosures or, as C.Suthorn says, your account will probably be blocked on the English-language Wikipedia. - Jmabel ! talk 21:28, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
請問十分老街在哪裡?該不會是指平溪線鐵道吧?[edit]
我在Category:Shifen Village看到很多張照片,顯示平溪線火車通過一處聚落,這使我想起泰國也有個類似場景,所以我打算建立一個分類,但是有一個問題。從Google搜尋,我找到的訊息也不是很完整,因此想請教當地人。如果平溪線火車在抵達十分車站前,行經的聚落是叫十分寮,Google給我的搜尋結果都是指向十分寮,難道十分寮就是十分老街?如果是,請問老街是在哪裡?該不會是指平溪線鐵道吧?--125.230.89.198 12:16, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- 這個問題攸關分類的命名,可能是Category:Trains passing through Shifenliao,也可能是Category:Trains passing through Shifen Old Street,因此現在是「Category:Trains passing through ???」這樣留下未命名的問號分類,但我還沒有建立,直到這個問題解決。--125.230.89.198 12:22, 26 December 2023 (UTC)