Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Capuan bust of Hannibal

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Files in Category:Capuan bust of Hannibal[edit]

© 1932 by Phaidon Verlag (Wien-Leipzig). Is this OK for Commons? The sculpture itself dates from the Renaissance, and was discovered in the 17th century.

Yann (talk) 12:41, 20 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Maybe ok, maybe not. True, the sculpture itself is obviously PD-old, so it comes down to who made the photograph and if the photographer has been dead long enough. The original edition of Theodor Mommsen's Römische Geschichte is PD-old because Mommsen died in 1903. Considering the lack of images in that edition (several available at the Internet Archive), the photo must have been introduced in a later edition. The file description seems to refer to this 1932 edition published at Phaidon Verlag. The subtitle Auswahl der Bilder besorgte Ludwig Goldscheider is concerning, as Goldscheider died only in 1973. The question remains whether Goldscheider was the photographer (meaning the photo is still copyrighted) or merely selected this photograph (meaning someone else is the photographer [but who?], potentially making the photo PD-old). --HyperGaruda (talk) 07:33, 23 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  •  Keep Google shows 200+ websites with a version of the same photo. There are also a multitude of book covers with that photo on Amazon. It doesn't say the photographer's name though. Alarmy has an edited version of this photo (they didn't take the photo). Below the photo is Italian text "P.I.N. 11036. NAPOLI - Museo Nazionale. Annibale. (Scultura Antica.)". So this photo was probably taken by an Italian photographer, maybe an employee of the museum in circa 1932 or earlier. I think it's safe to assume this is public domain. -Artanisen (talk) 22:00, 25 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]